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TMAI #473: 🧮 AI Age: Bye SEO, Hello AEO! -P6

Avinash Kaushik <ak@kaushik.net>
August 28, 2025

[The Marketing Analytics Intersect, by Avinash Kaushik] [1]

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TMAI #473: BYE SEO, HELLO AEO! -P6

[Answer Engine Analytics | Analysis & Insights.]

[Ā Web Version [3] ]

SEO served us well; it remains a revenue driving powerhouse today, and

will do so for the near future.

As humans shift FROM ā€œ_keywording_ā€ for 10-blue links to do all

the work themselves TO typing _resolution questionsĀ _to have the LLMs

do nearly all the work… ANSWER ENGINE OPTIMIZATION (AEO) becomes an

exciting next step to ensure continued revenue growth.

I asked Gemini 2.5 Pro how many people use LLMs to search vs. Google

Search. It answered, and this is actual the first line: ā€œ_Google

remains the undisputed king of search, processing trillions of queries

annually._ā€

True. 😊

Again, per Gemini, ChatGPT processes 1 billion to 2.5 billion prompts

per day. Google processes 8.5 billion to 14 billion searches per day.

That is an apples to bananas comparison, but Google’s

ā€œking-nessā€ is not in dispute.

Still,_Ā Answer Engine_ use is accelerating. They are doing all the

work of influencing the human, helping make end point decisions.

Result: Conversion Rates from AE visitors are massively higher!

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Seer Interactive: ChatGPT traffic converts at 16% vs. Google organic's

1.8%.Ā Link [4].

*

Ahrefs: 0.5% of the traffic is from AI Search, it is responsible for

12% of signups.Ā Link [5].

*

SEMrush: AI visitors are 4.4Ɨ more valuable on average than Google

organic.Ā Link [6].

These numbers are early blush, they will settle downwards. But, I

anticipate AE Conversion Rates will be significantly higher than the

avg ecommerce CR of 2% - these humans are arriving_Ā pre-influenced._

To take advantage of this delicious upside, you need to urgently

allocate your Digital team’s focus to AEO to ensure Answer Engines

recommend your Brand.

To do that well, you’ll need to embrace ANSWER ENGINE ANALYTICS.

(AEA)

To do that intelligently, you’ll need a new tool to understand where

to focus and what to do.

To do that without wasting time/money, it is critical to

understandĀ 1.Ā keyĀ _higher order bitsĀ _re how Answer Engines

work,Ā 2.Ā four methodology questions to ask an AEA tool,Ā 3.Ā the Big

3 Success KPIs andĀ 4.Ā three helpful Diagnostic Metrics you need to

leverage for deep insights.

[Please read _TMAI #472: Answer Engine Analytics: Methodologies &

KPIs_. Premium subscribers, if you can’t find it please hit reply.]

With that clarity settled on your brain, it is time for insight-filled

analysis!

I’ll teach analysis via two tools I use:Ā EVERTUNE [7]Ā (paid

solution, with depth, breadth) andĀ GUMSHOE [8]Ā (one free report

available, a fascinating approach using AI-built personas).

[Disclosure: I made a tiny, tiny, tiny angel investment in Evertune in

Oct 2024.]

4B. ANSWER ENGINE ANALYTICS: ANALYSIS & INSIGHTS.

I use a six-step process to power my analysis, to glean actionable

insights. Regardless of the tool you use, I recommend this

approach.Ā Just be careful to check the methodology powering your

tool, and the definitions of the KPIs. Across tools, the same name

metrics can be measured very differently.

STEP 1. ANALYZE THE WORD ASSOCIATIONS.

Our objective is to identify clusters that are small that we want to

be big. 😊

As we discussed in depth in _Premium # 470: Bye SEO, Hello AEO_, a ton

of your earned influence in LLMs will come via a custom 1P & 3P

CONTENT PORTFOLIO STRATEGY.

The Word Association report is a good place to start as it shows the

most common words, and their sentiment, when AI models describe your

brand. [Note: Aided Awareness.]

[Word Association Report: Coach | Deepseek]

Evertune asks each model (DeepSeek, above) to generate reviews -

repeatedly to capture a wide range of responses, realizing these

models are probabilistic and not deterministic (see TMAI #472).

The frequency with which a word appears is its Association Score (0 to

100 scale), how positively and negatively the word is used is the

Sentiment Score (-100 to +100).

Each Answer Engine understands you differently. Compare above report

for DeepSeek with below for Gemini.

[Word Association Report: Coach | Gemini]

If the large green words are the ones you consider most important for

your Brand, celebrate. If they are not, you have a perception problem

to fix. I would rather the large green words in Gemini were the ones

in DeepSeek… And that right there gives me my to-do list re AEO.

If you are self-critical like me, you will only see the red

words. 😊 As Longchamp, I’m getting hosed on Gemini. As Google

has shoved Gemini into most of its products, a negative sentiment

across them is a big brand problem. Another actionable add to my to-do

list.

STEP 2: UNDERSTAND CONSUMER PREFERENCES.

Word Associations are a good start, next question: _In what context

were these words used?_

Hence, it is important to understand the _consumer journey_ view as

the researching humans see it (and NOT as me the company prefers they

see it!).

Consumer Preferences are specific attributes HUMANS ASK ABOUT when

researching a category. And, how likely is my brand to appear

UNAIDEDĀ (the ultimate test).

Here's my awesome Evertune custom report, with Gucci as my competitor

and ChatGPT as my model…

[Consumer Preferences Report: Coach, Gucci]

Coach is crushing it on Price, Functionality, and Durability. Yes!

It is important to appreciate that all of the aboveĀ _performance

vectors_Ā are identified by the AI (and not the human or Evertune).

This is super helpful as it shows me what the Answer Engine/LLM thinks

is most significant about my category (handbags).

These are topics AI will proactively talk about when helping the user

decide on trade-offs.

This is freaking gold, because I can now specifically identify where

to focus my AEO efforts. If Quality or Style is my actual big deal,

the data shows they should be high priority focus areas.

With any tool, spend time internalizing where the data comes from. In

case of Evertune, it will:

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Ask (remember unaided) a number of unique prompt variations.

One variation of many, many: _Which handbags are known for outstanding

durability? Can you list handbag brands that offer excellent style?_

*

Sample a massive number of times to weed out noise and identify

statistically significant patterns - a key competitive strength for

ET.

As you take action, you can track your performance across Answer

Engines and over time.

[Performance Vectors across Answer Engines.]

Focus is key. I recommend the highest priority be placed on ChatGPT

(approx. 650m MAUs), then Gemini (approx. 350m MAUs), and then

DeepSeek (approx. 97m MAUs).

We’d established that the opportunity for Coach was not Visibility

Score, rather it was Average Position. (See TMAI #472 for metric

definitions and reports.)

As you improve your content creation AND distribution strategy in

focused _performance vectors_, you can review the improvements in the

focus KPI of Avg. Position.

[Performance Vectors: Average Position Scores]

Look at Kate Spade! MaybeĀ grab the new Duo [9] – it has

been deemed cool by GenZ [10]. 😊

STEP 3: IDENTIFY CONTENT CREATION FOCUS.

With our focus words identified, further refined by the _performance

vectors_ we want to focus on… It is time to write content to build

on your strengths and combat the brand’s weaknesses.

In EVERTUNE, in the AI Education Brief section, I can create a new

brief by choosing the Product Category (handbags for me) and my focus

_performance vector_ (style).

[AI Education Brief. Evertune.]

It goes off to the races and in a min, spits out the top three content

creation recommendations that most resonate for Coach with Answer

Engines.

[Content Creation Recommendations, Evertune.]

The messages that will improve my Visibility Score and Average

Position, the stories that I need to tell (inspired by the keywords

shared above). Very _SEO_, no?

Different tools use different approaches. As an example, GUMSHOE has

anchored its approach on AI-built Personas. As someone who has

advocated for intent-centric marketing,Ā See-Think-Do-Care [11], I am

unaligned with a Persona-driven approach – it ends up making our

customers into unhelpful caricatures. Noting that worry, I appreciate

what Todd is trying to do.

Gumshoe identifies content creation focus areas, in columns, by your

potential personas, in rows. In cells is your brand’s current

visibility.

[Strategic Content Opportunities, Gumshoe.]

For the _performance vectorsĀ _you care about, from Evertune, you can

also prioritize content creation using the columns above.

As with Evertune, blue image above, Gumshoe helps you get started. I

love how easy it is. Click on one of the boxes, and it’ll help you

create a first draft of FAQs you should post on your site.

For Coach, I selected the persona _Social Media Trendsetter_Ā and

improving visibility for the topic _Fashionable Statement Purses for

GenZ.Ā _

[Custom Content Strategy, Gumshoe.]

Gumshoe helpfully provides a bunch of FAQ questions, with AI written

answers as starting points to influences LLMs.

Two notes of caution.

CAUTION 1:Ā Remembering the lesson in TMAI #470, I recommend human

writing the answer so that they are ā€œAI Resistantā€ (definition:

_Of genuine novelty and depth_) – because anyone can have AI write

content, but there’s only one of you.

CAUTION 2:Ā It was never easy toĀ _fool_ Google, but it is

_reallyĀ _not easy to _fool_ Answer Engines. For a simple reason: LLMs

have way, way, way, way, more sources, across text, audio, video, that

influence their ā€œbelief system.ā€ Hence, if you have a weakness

that is legitimate, it will be extremely difficult to trick an LLM

into ā€œovercomingā€ that weakness. It will know you are lying.

Because tens of thousands of other sources confirm your lie. My

advice: Spend your energy fixing the source of weakness across your

products & business practice.

STEP 4: CREATE A CONTENT DISTRIBUTION STRATEGY.

In TMAI #470 (_More content, more places, more often_], I’d shared a

custom content distribution plan for Coach and a company that owns

Auto Dealerships.

3P Content, thus far, seems to have significantly higher influence on

AEs.

To create your own, in Evertune identify the Domains that are

important for your Brand…

[Domains impacting AI for Coach.]

Brand Share of Voice (bSOV) is calculated by taking the top 50

domains, estimate how many pages are relevant to the product category

(handbags, for me), and then what % of those pages include the brand

(Coach, for me).

Ex: Bag Vanity has an AI Education Score of 10.0 in our category.

Coach’s bSOV on it is 6.7%, LV is 10.2% and Prada is 7.5%. On Marie

Claire, Coach is 1.5%, Prada is 12.1%.

A simple way to identify the domains you should prioritize.

A nuanced lesson, stay with me: Domains can influence an Answer

Engine, without being cited as a source in the answers presented to

the human. Ex:Ā My blog Occam’s Razor [12]Ā might have taught Answer

Engines a lot about Digital Analytics because it has 0.8 million words

written by me, and 1.7 million words in comments written by readers.

BUT. When you use ChatGPT, it might cite others (ex: more recent

sites).

Hence, the important role of Sources Analysis, it shows the citations,

references, other links actually shown to the human user of an AE.

[Sources Analysis, Evertune.]

As a business, it is fine if you are not the domain the AE is learning

from. It is Not Fine to not be part of Sources. Humans click on

Sources in AE replies, that is how they find you.

I would prioritize a focus on Citations and References. You also see

above my prioritization of ChatGPT based on data.

Your Earned Media team (PR, Affiliate, SEO, etc) now has a to-do list.

GUMSHOE, takes a different approach to helping you build a custom 3P

content distribution strategy.Ā  You can view the companies AI pulls

from when mentioning your brand (Top Sources), then you can break down

visibility by type of website driving awareness where you could be

underrepresented (Source Type).

[Source Analysis Report, Gumshoe.]

I click on a Source Type and choose Blogs/Content sites, and for Coach

I get the actual sources cited by the models when answering questions.

I click on Marie Claire, and I get specific links to Marie Claire, as

well as my competitors being mentioned.

[Nuance: The mention is referring to the brands mentioned in the

prompt or answer, not necessarily the Source. Still very helpful, but

worth being aware.]

This is another way to approach the to-do list for your Earned Media

team.

IMPORTANT REMINDER:Ā In TMAI #470, my Action #10 was a recommendation

for you to merge your PR, Affiliate, SEO and Content teams into a

single entity called ā€œANSWERS QUALITY TEAM.ā€ If you don’t break

these silos, chances of sucking are higher.

STEP 5: MONITOR IMPACT, WITH BIG 3 SUCCESS KPIS.

For AEA, at the moment, AI BRAND SCORE, VISIBILITY SCORE, and AVERAGE

POSITION are the Big3 KPIs. Across tools, they can be measured

differently. Please check the root definitions before you use any

tool, or, god forbid, multiple tools.

Given our prioritization of Average Position as the More Important

Opportunity, track improvements. Like so in Evertune...

[Average Position Report, Evertune.]

The second priority will be to track changes in the AI Brand Score

across priority AEs (ChatGPT, Gemini, Deepseek in our case)... Really

superb performance by Coach!

[AI Brand Score, Evertune.]

Finally… Google used to change its core algorithm occasionally –

with huge consequences for all of us. LLMs seem to launch a new

version like every other week! Hence, as we reflected on how AEs work

in TMAI #469, #471, it is important to keep track of our Big 3 Success

KPIs as models change.

Here’s what that looks like in Evertune…

What’s difficult to isolate at the moment is _why_? Ex: Coach went

down by 3, probably not significant. Kate Spade went up by 11, that is

_massive_. Why? No idea. We have such little visibility into LLM black

boxes, we can only pray to Krishna and Jesus that the next set of

weights being used favor our brands.

The_Ā like to like_Ā comparison in the colorful bar chart above will

help us identify with some measure of causality of our Content

Creation and 1P + 3P Content Distribution strategies.

STEP 6: GET YOUR HOUSE IN ORDER! WELCOME LLM BOTS.

In TMAI #469, I’d underlined the importance of your site & mobile

app experience, your internal site search to meet evolving customer

preferences AND for Agentic AI.

As you do steps 1 thru 5 above, don’t forget that you could have

barriers on your site.

Two reports you should _shower_ your Corporate IT team are:

A. PAGE AE INSIGHTS: HOW DOES AN ANSWER ENGINE UNDERSTAND AN IMPORTANT

PAGE?

The sweet Content Retrievability Analysis report from Gumshoe analyzes

a specific page through the _eyes_ of an Answer Engine. It

automatically generates questions related to the page, reports

Citations Found and Citation Rate.

[Content Retrievability Analysis | Gumshoe for Kate Spade Duo.]

The above report is for KATE SPADE’S DUOĀ webpage. It has a decent

Citation Rate. But, the key is in digging into each question and

seeing the Answer Engine’s understanding of that page.

If you open the above image in a new tab, you’ll notice that the AI

Response, top right of image, is wrong, wrong, really wrong. Like

terrible. The LLM does not understand us!

And… That is our fault as a brand.

Why?

B. PAGE QUALITY ANALYSIS: IS OUR PAGE UNDERSTANDABLE?

To answer why, you would look at the second report…

[Page Quality Analysis, Kate Spade | Gumshoe]

These results are so, so, so bad, that through my tears I convinced

myself that Gumshoe is a garbage tool and not functioning right.

I decided to double-check. I ran the same report for the webpage of my

favorite jacket in the world:Ā Patagonia’s Nono Puff. [13]

[Page Quality Analysis, Patagonia | Gumshoe]

Damn it!!

😢

I guess it is not the tool.

Ok. Deep breath. The Page Quality Analysis report helps explain why

the Page AE Insights report showed a poor understanding of our page

and product. An AI Optimization Score of 5.8% perhaps does not deserve

to be understood.

My feelings are hurt, but I get a clump of helpful metrics. I can dig

deeper into understanding _why_Ā each score. Ex: The Content Balance

is low because we need to ā€œadd comprehensive product description and

details, include relevant product specifications and features, provide

customer review content.ā€ Etc.

Action time for our IT team.

TRAKKR [14],Ā which I shared last week, also has a Optimize Site

Content report in their paid version.

Six simple steps, in order, that will unlock specific actions you can

take, starting now, to attract_Ā pre-influenced_ by Answer Engine

humans. They might be small in numbers, but they convert into

customers at a rate multiple times higher than your site average.

BOTTOM LINE.

A change of this magnitude comes once in a generation.

It also comes with the _innovator’s dilemma_. The change in consumer

behavior is small numbers for now. It is comforting to sit in your old

SEO cocoon, with its still big numbers.

The danger is that by the time you realize you should start

changing… You are in deep, deep, trouble. Remember, a whole bunch of

_non-brand trafficĀ _you are currently losing every day will never

come back.

Across the six editions of TMAI, I’ve shared 70-pages of

comprehensive analysis of the problem, the four clusters of

opportunities, and over 50 specific actions covering Marketing,

Content, Analytics.

The time to start is now.

_Carpe diem._

-Avinash.

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